IAIABC 2009 All Committee Conference

 

Today kicked off the IAIABC 2009 All Committee Conference in Baltimore, Maryland. This afternoon’s agenda was titled “CMS and Workers’ Compensation Forum” with a generous 1 hour 15 minute session devoted to WCMSAs and conditional payment recovery, while a 1 hour 45 minute session was devoted to Section 111 reporting. Presenting for CMS were primarily Frank Johnson, who you may recognize as the questions guy from the April 3, 2009 AWP memo, and Barbara Wright from the many MMSEA teleconferences.

 

As for WCMSAs, it was clear that in light of the recent AWP proclamation that attendees were optimistically looking for a forum for discussion of the same. What we received instead was a rudimentary WCMSA lesson presented by Mr. Johnson followed by discussion of some interesting problems the process has caused in Michigan and New Jersey, leaving us with enough time for exactly two questions, the first of which was wasted on a MMSEA question deferred to the following session.

 

The second question was the one everyone’s been waiting for CMS to answer: how does CMS justify forcing insurers to pay more in a settlement utilizing AWP for future Rx than they are responsible for under state law or that claimants even need postsettlement? The answer was essentially that AWP is the only way they can be “on the same page” as those submitting WCMSAs for review. Also whenever they could fit it in, we received a subtle reminder that federal law supersedes state law. Again the issue was not addressed and all attempts at clarifying the question were thwarted as they ended the session for a beverage break.

 

Although we did not get the answers we were hoping for, one thing that was interesting was that CMS’ tone with regard to its review process has changed significantly. An entire page of Mr. Johnson’s presentation was dedicated to pointing out the fact that the CMS review process is totally voluntary. It is not mandated in or governed by any federal law and if required by the state workers’ compensation agency, that has nothing to do with CMS. In the past, that message was always don’t seek our approval to your detriment. It almost appears as if they are discouraging our use of their review process and that we should expect to fund more than needed for MSP compliance if we want the alleged assurances provided in the CMS approval letter. 

 

As for MMSEA issues, nothing new or informative was discussed. Although an email was sent out prior to the event notifying participants that they should be familiar with the issues, implying that stupid questions would not be entertained, the questions were very basic. Or they were too complicated for CMS to answer, with the stock response being to send emails to them with those particular situation so they can better understand how the insurance industry works. Interesting that because the MMSEA is law that CMS is interested in understanding how the law applies to the unilateral policies they dictated, however our efforts over the past 8 years to provide them with information about applications of insurance, contract, and workers' compensation law to WCMSAs have fallen on deaf ears. Must be that the voluntary process is not subject to any of those limitations.

 

We recognized many MSA industry participants at the meeting. Fortunately, we only had to drive 20 minutes to attend while they flew in from all over the country. Knowing what we know now, that 20 minute drive could have been put to more productive use than sitting through an MSA 101 presentation and having CMS decide a cold soda was more important than getting feedback from industry experts and stakeholders. In their defense, the Marriott did put out an excellent assortment of beverages.

 

Grade for latest CMS outreach effort : D- (They would have gotten an F but for Mr. Johnson reminding everyone that the review process is voluntary... That is a point we hope becomes more and more accepted by the industry.)

 

 

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